Techno Babble II

Can we make life easier?

Several of you tend to slate me because I always want shit to degrade if js is disabled, several of you also assume that means I hate javascript. I don't. I hate the normal "webmaster" implementation of javascript ... which usually equates to "your site looks shit in my browser and all your tools fail" ... anyway, on the grounds that some things require js just to function ( quicktags, smilies, any other button that adds shit when you click it ), would it be worth creating some standard javascript modules that made life easier, and should we use jquery ... which can add a lot of overhead to the first time visitor with js enabled?

So, pretend I'm open to all suggestions, even the bloody stupid ones, what kind of core javascript abilities would you like?

What percentage of you use them?

One of the main tabs in b2evo is the stats tab which shows you lots of totally useless information about user agents and referring domains and other stuff along the same lines. So I was wondering just how many people actually use them. Personally I tend to use the evil googy analytics for domains that I want stats on, or I hit the server logs, or I keep my own statistics, mainly because the ones in the core are about as useful as a chocolate fire guard.

I guess the question is, do _you_ use the stats and do you think that they should be kept in the core of Quam Plures?

The world was full of dragons

Apparently it will be again one day, so keep an eye out for them ;)