Posted on 25th Jan 2010 in Random Thoughts
What percentage of you use them?
One of the main tabs in b2evo is the stats tab which shows you lots of totally useless information about user agents and referring domains and other stuff along the same lines. So I was wondering just how many people actually use them. Personally I tend to use the evil googy analytics for domains that I want stats on, or I hit the server logs, or I keep my own statistics, mainly because the ones in the core are about as useful as a chocolate fire guard.
I guess the question is, do _you_ use the stats and do you think that they should be kept in the core of Quam Plures?
I wonder if I need to change those default field values? hmmm... dunno ... or summat. Now you know who eh?
I do like some aspects of the stats but not most. I like seeing the search results that lead to various installations, and seeing the referer traffic. I know I can see the details a lot better via cpanel, but QP stats tell me what is happening in QP which isn't always the whole installation. So I like it :)
Betcha I hit a timeout soon...
- Lee Turner @link http://www.darkstreamofconsciousness.com/index.php
Same as you really. Never used the b2evo stats and use "evil googy analytics" for when I do want stats on my site. My take is to rip them out of the core and let the plugins do it. Google analytics is easy to achieve via the plugin that already exists. Other plugins could be created to support analytics if need be but I can't see me ever using them if there are there.
- Foppe Hemminga @link http://www.hemminga.net
.:Afwas:. yabs, The stats are an excellent example of the plugin - core discussion.
.:Afwas:. Having them makes people believe your software is state of the art and feature complete
.:Afwas:. Yet nobody will ever have a look at it
.:yabs:. heh, you should add that as a comment to the thread ;)
.:Afwas:. Ignorant users will think their blogging software is incomplete without stats
.:yabs:. be nice if you could turn majority of them off though, ideal plugin material but plugin would probably be more overhead (per hit) than current method
- Topanga @link http://www.tenderfeelings.be
I do go look at the stats from time to time.
To see what keywords people type, to see how many visitors I have.
I don't care for the useragent, or other technical stuff that you should look in google analytics.
But the very basis stats are very worth having in the core I think. For several reasons (a few have beens tated above).
Walter and I are moving stats to the 'Tools' though.
Sooo, consensus seems to be "sometimes some of us go to some areas of some of the stats"?
Guess the decision is, how much is recorded as default an how ?
example : all the keywords and goals sh...stuff, is processed/recorded in Hit() ... but is only needed if you hit admin > vanity > keywords || goals
b2evo stats are totally inaccurate, but i do check once in a while just to see whats going on... I would like them to stay if they are gonna be really accurate unlike b2's, otherwise they are almost useless... About which ones im checking; i mostly go to only the main stats pane and the search engine results, the others i dont care much
The hit summary is pretty with it's flash graph and provides a fairly quick look at "basic numbers".
The only other tabs in statistics that I look at on a regular or semi-regular basis are the Search-Browser hits and Referred Browser hits.
The rest (which includes: Browser Hits, Direct Browser Hits, Robot Hits, XML hits, User Agents, referring domains and Sessions), could all be binned, IMO.
Referring domains might be the only one of the lot I'd keep and if so, might be nice to include a pie chart with it and/or find some way to integrate both "referred browser hit" data with "referring domains" in a single "referrer hits" page.
Yes, the stats aren't accurate (which are?) and take up a whack-load of table space, but it's nice to have a "quick picture" set in the back-office, if only because I'm there way more often than I'm visiting AWStats in cPanel.
LMFAO - moderation!! :-p
(waits 30 seconds so that I'm not considered to be "flooding") :-\
/me points to the highly informative line just above the textarea :|
Who read instructions? :o
And add that to a Yabba + Moderation == never heard of and you're getting more FG like, every day! :-p